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Re: A few of the Goan heroes who have crossed my desktop

----- Original Message -----
From: floriano
To: Mario Goveia ; Santosh gmail ; anand virgincar
Cc: Dr Jose Colaco ; elisabeth carvalho goanet ; Miguel Braganza ; godfrey.pereira@hotmail.com ; hartman.desouza@gmail.com ; goanet-admin@goanet.org ; goenchimxapotam@yahoogroups.com ; CORNEL DACOSTA ; anil desai ; augusto pinto ; Teotonio DeSouza ; xanno moidekar ; marcuspd7@gmail.com ; gilbert2114@yahoo.com ; Kevin Saldanha ; chinmay ; Nascy Caldeira ; marshall mendonza ; samir kelekar ; Alfred de Tavares ; goacom@yahoo.com ; fn@goa-india.org.readnotify.com ; venantius pinto goanet ; fr ivo d'souza ; frederick rico noronha goanet ; Cecil Pinto ; eddieverdes@hotmail.com ; Eric Pinto ; rajan parrikar ; Sandeep Heble ; george pinto goanet ; valmiki faleiro ; Godfrey Gonsalves ; Percy Ferrao ; Pravin Sabnis ; Radhakrishnan Nair ; rui nuovo goanet ; vivian d'souza goanet ; waylusha@rediffmail.com ; goycho@gmail.com ; mmdmello@gmail.com ; basilio.monteiro@gmail.com ; libado23s53@yahoo.com
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 12:21 AM
Subject: Re: A few of the Goan heroes who have crossed my desktop


Floriano is no saint. But Mario gets the credit for saying what he has said.

So far, I have managed to keep my integrity intact and I am, like many around here, proud of the same. I am a builder by secondary (retired) profession since 1997 when I retired from sea life. And many project away, I have managed to sail through the most difficult job of not paying a single paisa in bribes. And one can do that only if one does not cut corners. Recently, I was hauled in the High Court by a co-citizen of Moira pointing out major flaws in my latest residential project "Dora Apartments" containing 19 single B/R units where I have lost one and half year to litigations to give occupancy to my clients. I defended the case in person and managed to get it dismissed (writ petition 862 of 2009) before its admission in spite of a very strong support against me by Ex-Finance Minister Dayanand Narvekar, who incidentally even raised the issue of my illegality in the Assembly session. The reason for the writ petition was to force me to a compromise table and withdraw the 12 year running case against the co-citizen who has grabbed the neigbouring priest's house and property and is shortly to be evicted, in which case I am the Power of Attorney for the plaintiffs. My plea to the Justices of the Hon. High Court was : "Please demolish my building if it is illegal' as I need to be penalized severely since I am the guy who has been pointing fingers at the illegalities of others to the extent of having 7 PILs in this very Hon. High Court.

I respect Mario for his observations. If at all Goa's system of governance is to be changed, the fight for a change has to be lead by person or persons of past present and future integrity. But the only way the future integrity can be evaluated is on the basis of present and the past consistency.

Cheers
floriano
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----- Original Message -----
From: Mario Goveia
To: Santosh gmail ; anand virgincar
Cc: Dr Jose Colaco ; elisabeth carvalho goanet ; Miguel Braganza ; godfrey.pereira@hotmail.com ; hartman.desouza@gmail.com ; goanet-admin@goanet.org ; goenchimxapotam@yahoogroups.com ; CORNEL DACOSTA ; anil desai ; augusto pinto ; Teotonio DeSouza ; xanno moidekar ; marcuspd7@gmail.com ; gilbert2114@yahoo.com ; Kevin Saldanha ; chinmay ; Nascy Caldeira ; Floriano Lobo ; marshall mendonza ; samir kelekar ; Alfred de Tavares ; goacom@yahoo.com ; fn@goa-india.org.readnotify.com ; venantius pinto goanet ; fr ivo d'souza ; frederick rico noronha goanet ; Cecil Pinto ; eddieverdes@hotmail.com ; Eric Pinto ; rajan parrikar ; Sandeep Heble ; george pinto goanet ; valmiki faleiro ; Godfrey Gonsalves ; Percy Ferrao ; Pravin Sabnis ; Radhakrishnan Nair ; rui nuovo goanet ; vivian d'souza goanet ; waylusha@rediffmail.com ; goycho@gmail.com ; mmdmello@gmail.com ; basilio.monteiro@gmail.com ; libado23s53@yahoo.com
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 11:31 PM
Subject: A few of the Goan heroes who have crossed my desktop


The last time I checked, Anil, George and Rajan had done more for Goa in tangible terms than any other NRG that I know with little or no fanfare. Others who were seen trying hard to rally Goans from afar include Carmen Miranda and Eddie Fernandes. Arwin is also fighting for change in the trenches while shuttling back and forth from the Gulf.

Local activists that deserve note include Floriano, toiling to get some traction while maintaining his personal honesty and integrity under difficult circumstances. We all know that Goan politicians can be bought, and it is a stiff hill to climb for anyone who tries to change the bribery and corruption in Goa without engaging in bribery and corruption.

I'm sure there are many more in Goa like Ana Maria and Cecil who are no longer on my radar screen. I would ask Cecil to post his sitirical postings on GX as well.

How about that East Indian bugger, Godfrey Periera, who went bonkers with righteous indignantion and incredulity when some on this list questioned his credentials while ignoring his message that SOMETHING needs to be done to bring Goa and Goans to their senses before it's too late. It turns out the bugger is a genuine war correspondant and friend and colleague of Hartman DeSouza.

I don't know any of these folks personally - my information comes from reading the lines and between the lines of stuff that comes across my desktop.

More recently kudos to the women activists like Diana Pinto, Olinda Pereira and Judy Rebelo, among many others, who stood up to be counted and were physically roughed up and arrested by Goa Police under orders from the C.M. or those around him, while successfully exposing the C.M.'s contempt for the Gon voter.


--- On Sat, 5/22/10, anand virgincar wrote:


From: anand virgincar
Subject: RE: AV's rating system challenged
To: "Santosh gmail"
Date: Saturday, May 22, 2010, 3:25 PM


Dear S-bab,

As far as Goan and Indian politics are concerned ( and they are all that matter to me as far as discussions on Goan cyberforums are concerned ) , Mario-bab is about as politically active as you are. And that is restricting oneself ( unlike blatant political activists like myself ) to countering the untruths in general and communal propaganda in particular ( which Goanet in particular and Goan netspace in general has specialised in over the years ).

And hats off to the 2 of you for doing this. In a way , you guys have done as much for Goa by your electronic input as Rajan , Anil , George-bab, Soter and a few other rare non-communal souls have done thru their blood , sweat and tears in the recent past.

warm regards,
av

> Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 11:50:32 -0500
> Subject: Re: AV's rating system challenged
> From: chimbelcho@gmail.com
> To: anandvirgincar@hotmail.com
>
> Anand,
>
> Are you saying that Mario is not politically active?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Santosh
>
> On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 11:25 AM, anand virgincar
> wrote:
> >
> > I forgot to mention Mario who on matters Goan and Indian ( in other words , matters that matter to me ) is perhaps the most balanced voice in >Goan cyberspace.
> >
> > Persons like him and Santosh may not be involved in actual activism ....but do contribute a lot by countering the highly dangerous ( and often >communal ) propaganda emanating from the many " pseudo " pro-Goa activists around.
> >
> > warm regards,
> > av
> >

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